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Roger Andrews



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject: Ken a new portrait sculpture Reply with quote

Hi folks,

I haven't posted in such a long time I thought I would say hello Smile

Strictly speaking this is a WIP as it is only the completed (I hope) clay. I am awaiting my clients approval before I mould it and cast it in aqueous bronze resin. The round support tube will disappear when I mould it.

I will post some images of the bronze when completed

Roger
PS it is life size





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Alan I'Anson



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good Roger. I think he looks like he's smiling a bit more in the photograph, if that matters... otherwise it looks great. I love the hair effect you've created.

Alan
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Roger Andrews



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Alan, the smile is a little muted by prior agreement. You have to be careful with smiles or you can end up with something that looks like a scene out of "The Shining" Very Happy

Roger
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Tamara



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great job on him Roger! I like how you rendered his short hair. He looks very much like the real guy to me. Hope your client is pleased and gives the go ahead to mold and cast him. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fun piece with a lot of personality. I especially like the profile Roger. The proportions and shape of the skull are spot on. Ear to jawline junction looking pretty good too. I might revisit the eyes a little to try to get the shapes a little more symmetrical and even up the size of the irises.
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Roger Andrews



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tamara, my client is very pleased, she just wants me to make his nose a little more pointy, I think I know what she means. BTW Great work as always with your "Woman Relaxing". I made an 8" figurine of my Fred Keenor commission the other day (they are still trying to raise the money for the job) and struggling with the fingers, I was thinking to myself I wish I could do small detail like Tamara.

Heidi, thanks for the heads up. I'd already adjusted his right eyelid but I hadn't noticed the irises. I also spotted that his right ear was too far forward so I've put that right as well.

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Roger
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Tamara



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great that your client is happy. It must be hard, though, when they request something to be done, like a more pointy nose, and your own trained eye doesn't see it. I guess you just have to please the buyer even if you don't agree. When I saw the pointed nose from the side I was thinking it looked pretty pointed already. From the photo, it's hard to tell how pointy it is but if she wants more pointy than that..... well, pointy it will be! Confused Laughing

Was wondering if the sculpture's ears are sticking out a bit more than the model's ears.

If I was in your area I'd run over and sculpt your itsy bitsy fingers for you! I love doing hands and little finger nails. But really, bigger stuff is so much easier. My motto: I must, I must, I must increase the size of my sculptures!

Glad to hear from you as I was just thinking of you the other day.
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Roger Andrews



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamara, you could be right about his ears but I can't be bothered with it any more, I've been messing with it all weekend. You would have been very welcome to come and model the hands for me

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Tamara



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He looks great to me. I noticed that you rounded the tip a bit more from the side view. It looks right to me but with only the front view photo it's hard to tell. His upper lip looks like you thinned it out some or worked that area a bit. Nice job on him. Smile
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Doris Fiebig



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderful lively portray , love the expression, and love how finely the difference of "hard" areas and "soft" areas is modeled (bony and fleshy i mean). something i want learn to achieve too, so i admire it very Smile glad to hear your client is happy.
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Roger Andrews



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments Tamara and Doris, my client has given me the go ahead to mould it, she is very happy, so I should be able to post some pic's of the resin bronze in a week or so.

I quite like the way it has come out except I am not 100% happy with the hair. The back, top and sides are OK but the front of his hair is sort of very thin and fine, which I don't think I have portrayed adequately. I experimented with a few methods but this was the best I could come up with.

Perhaps there's a thread on modelling very fine, straight hair on the forum somewhere Question

Roger
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Jeanette Lewis



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger,
he looks good -
when I saw your early pics, I was taken with the way the front of the hair suggested that of the model without getting too much into that "thinning" look. I would suggest you have found just the right balance on this one and I'm sure the model may appreciate that! Smile
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Roger Andrews



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jeanette, I'm not going to mess with it any more I shall just mould it on the weekend. How is your moulding coming along?

Roger
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Jeanette Lewis



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger,
just got back from a stay at Greystokes in the lakes. (Not the castle, though!)
Thanks for asking about my mold making - I am getting better in some areas - and worse in others - learning what NOt to do - but still making good progress on the learning curve.
Just had another order from the shrine in Preston - Very Happy they ordered some other pieces of work too - so I hope to fund a couple more projects from the proceeds.
Had Wondered how thing were going for you with the football sculpt - so I was interested to read your update. Looking forward to your further postings.
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Stuart



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: hands Reply with quote

Looking good Roger!
A little about hands.
Firstly, they have so much personality.
The detail should be ignored to begin with.
If you have access to the subject, make a good long study and ask him or her to flex the thumb and fingers, and watch how the fingers and joints naturally relax.............usually in a varied way..some a little higher or lower and some more bent than others. Herein lies the personality.
The counterplay between the thumb and index finger plays an important role too, and the position of the joints with relation to each other. If you half close your eyes, forget the spaces between the fingers for a while and try and get a feeling of the overall form and shape. It can help a lot.
Have a look at the drawings and paintings of Egon Shiele.
He often exagerated the hands and made them play an enormous part in his work, often giving them the importance of the faces which were also beautifully handled. The eye is constantly drawn to the hands in these works.
Worth a couple of hours study...
Stuart



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